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Men of Whiterun - NPC Overhaul [SE] 1.0.2

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Hi, looks good but.....

Vortex can`t install with following Error :

 

Invalid XML, the Element pattern has incomplete Content.

List of possible Elements expected , dependencies ( Line 33, POS 6 ).

 

What can i do ?

Greetings Mike

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New version is uploaded. Should fix any errors you had.

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wow this looks grand ! how does this work with your mod "make nazeem irie again "?   love that mod . i should b able to load him last i assume .

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7 hours ago, grendelvich said:

wow this looks grand ! how does this work with your mod "make nazeem irie again "?   love that mod . i should b able to load him last i assume .

No compatibility issue with Nazeem. Load order shouldn't matter.

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Hieroglyphic you did it again and consistently make the best NPC overhauls around!

 

Im just wondering is it possible to make an NPC's appearance into a player preset?

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13 minutes ago, ZootZootTesla said:

Hieroglyphic you did it again and consistently make the best NPC overhauls around!

 

Im just wondering is it possible to make an NPC's appearance into a player preset?

 

I think you can with the mod "Schaken FM", which is on the site... but you will need to ask him about that, if it's possible for COR.

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This is stunning, probably the best Male overhaul I saw from the whole modding community.

Vitruvia can have the sweaty/greassy skin look a bit too prononced sometimes and i wish you gave some of them little more subtle here and there, but it's already great congratz!

I hope you will do more NPC overhaul with in mind the will to make them as charismatic and unique as possible 🙂
Quality > Quantity.

I then checked your other mods, I will be honest I was not  much convinced by your female overhaul who imo, look a bit all the same and too doll'ish' for my taste... Except maybe your Saadia and Mjoll replacer who imo have their own feature.
Anyway you are doing far better now(maybe you just prefer modding male face?), just keep it up and thanks for this!


 

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Hello,

thanks allot for your help!!

Never seen better Males 😀

Do you plan more?

 

Greetings Mike

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Good work! Really good 👍

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Dumb question but if I have a mod like Pandorable Males NPCs, is it enough to just overwrite those files with your mod or do I need to remove any references in xedit?

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20 hours ago, Rum Ham said:

Dumb question but if I have a mod like Pandorable Males NPCs, is it enough to just overwrite those files with your mod or do I need to remove any references in xedit?

 

If you want to keep all the Men of Whiterun npcs, I would install Pandorable first and then remove all the conflicting npc references with xedit from that, then install MoW second and allow it to copy over all the relevant facegen files.

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Thanks for the response! I actually was able to just overwrite those mods with yours and the models all show up perfectly without using xedit to delete conflicting references. Is there any risk to leaving it as is if everything seems to look as intended? Will those conflicting references create instability, or is that step done just to ensure the textures show correctly?

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9 hours ago, Rum Ham said:

Thanks for the response! I actually was able to just overwrite those mods with yours and the models all show up perfectly without using xedit to delete conflicting references. Is there any risk to leaving it as is if everything seems to look as intended? Will those conflicting references create instability, or is that step done just to ensure the textures show correctly?

 

There's always the potential for instability if there is more than one mod trying to edit the same records.

 

I don't know which mod manager you use or how each different manager will run your mod list in different ways. The order in which mods are loaded up is also important. 

 

Personally I would try to limit the potential for CTD by removing the redundant records that conflict. But whatever works for you, I guess.

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Really Great overhaul the best I have seen! I have only one small issue probably weird setting on my end but cant figure it out. I get small blocky shadows on your NPC's only happens with your NPC's not with the other overhauls. I set my shadows to 4k but still same do you mind sharing your shadow settings or what ENB you're using so I can see the shadow settings. 

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6 minutes ago, BearForceOne said:

Really Great overhaul the best I have seen! I have only one small issue probably weird setting on my end but cant figure it out. I get small blocky shadows on your NPC's only happens with your NPC's not with the other overhauls. I set my shadows to 4k but still same do you mind sharing your shadow settings or what ENB you're using so I can see the shadow settings. 

 

Can't think what's causing that issue. Graphics are not edited by this mod.

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I did some digging around looking at the files

I think the issue is with some files I noticed under the folder Textures\Actors\Character\hg_mow\head\head

the files malehead_msn.dds, maleheadcomplexion_age40_msn.dds, maleheadcomplexion_age50_msn.dds, maleheaddetail_rough01_msn.dds 

The files have the same blocky pixelated issue around the nose that I see as blocky shadows in game around the nose I deleted those files then loaded up the game and the blocky shadow issue was gone but the skin didn't look right see my screenshots if you look at the nose area you can see the issue in game with and without the file and the file looks a bit pixelated as well when I zoom in and take a look.  

 

 

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On 2/6/2022 at 5:33 AM, BearForceOne said:

I did some digging around looking at the files

I think the issue is with some files I noticed under the folder Textures\Actors\Character\hg_mow\head\head

the files malehead_msn.dds, maleheadcomplexion_age40_msn.dds, maleheadcomplexion_age50_msn.dds, maleheaddetail_rough01_msn.dds 

The files have the same blocky pixelated issue around the nose that I see as blocky shadows in game around the nose I deleted those files then loaded up the game and the blocky shadow issue was gone but the skin didn't look right see my screenshots if you look at the nose area you can see the issue in game with and without the file and the file looks a bit pixelated as well when I zoom in and take a look.  

 

 

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Try the improved head normal maps in the new version

 

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Glorious! My fave male npc mod hands down! Can't wait to see what you come up with next! 

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Best male NPC overhaul. I hope you do more!

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Crazy good overhaul.  If you normally use Pride of Skyrim turn it off in the FMOD and disable the Immersive weapons patch for Men of Whiterun.  Or you will get black face and and wonky weapon issues.  This works in AE I ran around and confirmed.  Looks amazing!

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Fantastic replacers. I have one problem however - the beards are not taking on the hair colour from the npcs - so Skulvar has greyish coloured hair but a jet black beard, and Balgruuf has sort of dark blond hair with a black beard - any idea why that might be (I can soon change the hair to match the beard in the esp, but wondering why it might be)

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3 hours ago, Tetrol88 said:

Fantastic replacers. I have one problem however - the beards are not taking on the hair colour from the npcs - so Skulvar has greyish coloured hair but a jet black beard, and Balgruuf has sort of dark blond hair with a black beard - any idea why that might be (I can soon change the hair to match the beard in the esp, but wondering why it might be)

 

No idea... Do you have any other mods that may be overwriting?

You could move the plugin in the load order, so that it loads after all your other mods.

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11 hours ago, Hieroglyphics said:

 

No idea... Do you have any other mods that may be overwriting?

You could move the plugin in the load order, so that it loads after all your other mods.

Nothing overwriting. No big deal - with a torchlight spell it shows Balgruuf''s beard to be dark brown not black - so I have just edited his hair colour to dark brown as well. Skulvar's definitely black, so once again an easy fix at my end.  These are the best replacers I have used and I have tried quite a few. (The old facegen and any specific mesh/textures are deleted from the old mods, not just overwritten)

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These will work with Jampion replacer if you overwrite with this one.  Pride of Skyrim can be done if you make sure to deselect MoWR and Companions in the FMOD.  I was actually able to use the PoS AIO over everything to patch them for AIO.

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Hey i was just wondering if there was a way I'd be able to put the head tattoos from Farkas onto my main character?

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