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Sassy Teen Dolls LE 1.5.2

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I am currently working to make the LE version flawless. i have done alot of work recently to this port and would love some feedback. Please post any errors here and i will work them out 1 at a time. Thanks!

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Hey Schaken
I noticed that your npc's crash the game. Let me explain.


The problem with the ctd still persist. By ticking the full version, only female version and lite version (depending which you choose), by using their corresponding .esp's i noticed that game crash upon creating a character or using alternate start.
Unticking one of those esp's (again, depending on which option you use) and starting a new game using the alternate start and choosing any teen race the game seems to act fine and works normally.
Also , i tried to save a game, then ticking back the any of the mentioned esp's back seems the game work fine  (all after creation).
So i be guessing that this problem with the CTD which are known for a long time is with the npc's.


 

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Continue to have same problems with April 26 update. Although the esm file is now error free, the use of any of the esps still causes the new game process to crash. Also, using a esp file after character creation results in CTDs under certain circumstances, which I don't understand. For instance, am now in Solitude. Started the Bards College quest with esp active but, when Viamo started to read the missing verses, my game crashed. Proceeded past that part of quest with esp unplugged. Then activated esp and explored College but when exited college, game crashed. I can play with an active esp in some cities, but specific quests crash with active esp. So far, game crashes when esp is active when talk to Jarl or Calcelmo in Understone Keep; travel to Karthwasten for "Heart of Dibella"; enter Reachcliff Cave for the "Taste of Death"; Bleakfalls Barrow after killing the bandits near the entrance; when exit Gildergleam Sanctuary to deliver note to Alena; and when give Rueful Axe to Clavicus.  This isn't all, but the salient point is the game works when sassy teen esp is active in certain circumstances and during some quests, but also crashes the game during some quests. Yes, I unplug the esp complete the quest from the crash point and then reactivate the esp.

PS. My game is very stable otherwise, I can play for days without a crash (without Sassy teens esp) and when it does crash it will start up and continue from the crash, no problemo. I've never experienced this type of problem and don't know how my crash experiences with Sassy teens can help troubleshoot the issue. Hope someone will eventually solve this problem.

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I started thinking that I was the only one who brought bad news but nah...
Anyway, i still have similar problems as @endline, the problem stops as long as the .esp is unticked.
 

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Although Sassy Teens causes CTDs , Dolls has worked well from the get go. Which begs the question---what is the difference between the two mods (besides the obvious)?

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I honestly dont play LE Version, only SE. I do my best to back port these mods and 99% of the time i never have issue. The CTD is somewhere in the Esp, and not the ESM. I have asked for help from other modders and no one can seem to find the issue. I do continue to search and figure out why this happens in LE and i do hope to find it soon.

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Much appreciate all the mods you have provided and your continued efforts to support LE. If there is something you would like me to try in search of a solution to the CTDs, please let me know. Obviously, I'm not a modder and am pretty much limited to using xEdit, but am willing to help if I can. I don't know if this is relevant, but resurrected "hydra-slavegirls" and simply changed most of the NPCs to sassy teen races. Converted over 100 and ran it with and without Sassy Teen esp. As you might have guessed the NPCs had mismatched skin and eye problems, but played well with Sassy Teen esp, which eventually caused CTD." Slavegirls" by itself didn't give me any problems. Used "slavegirls for a few hours, but have since deleted it, since don't care for the mod and don't really know how to or want to correct the skin and eye issues. All I can take away from my efforts is what we all know, which is "Sassy Teen esm" is not the problem, nor in my case, is adding more NPCs to my game (am actually using fewer custom NPCs in an effort to find a solution to "Sassy Teen" triggered CTDs). Don't understand why my game crashes during quests when speak to NPCs that are part of the quest (Viamo, Calcelmo, Clavicus, etc.), but so far only later in the quest. ST esp was active during the first encounter with Viamo and while getting the "verse" but crashed when he started reading it. Traveled to  Markarth and entered "Hag's Cure", Temple of Dibella and Understone Keep with ST esp active. Crashed when spoke either to Jarl or Calcelmo, but otherwise could look around the keep with ST esp active. During the "Rueful Axe" encountered no problems reaching Clavicus and then receiving the task of retrieving the axe. However, while ST esp was active, when approached area in cave where Rueful axe was, game crashed. Retrieved the axe while ST esp unplugged, then activated it to return to Clavicus; however, once Clavicus started "talking" , CTD. Had to finish quest with ST esp inactive. Wondered if there could be an issue with specific "Cells"? Still wonder why Dolls work, but not Teens.

Have no idea if any of the things I'ved tried help troubleshoot the problem with ST esp. You are busy with developing and supporting mods for SE (as well as RL) so this CTD issue probably has a lower priority for you. If you can give me some direction, will gladly continue to look for a fix (I have run out of ideas about what to try)

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On 5/6/2019 at 8:52 PM, Schaken said:

I honestly dont play LE Version, only SE. I do my best to back port these mods and 99% of the time i never have issue. The CTD is somewhere in the Esp, and not the ESM. I have asked for help from other modders and no one can seem to find the issue. I do continue to search and figure out why this happens in LE and i do hope to find it soon.

I found by chance a specific log file which could give an answer.

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Let us See.

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I've been testing new update 1.4
The thing is when choosing any of the 3 versions of the plugin files the game still ctd at Alternate Start (and without) as soon i hit the name of my character then pOOf!, 3-5 sec after the game closes.
Okay is when i choose "NONE" plugin, the game works fine and any other plugin selected works okay.
I noticed that game requires now "USLEP" ,,can you make a version without it, and also is there any place i could suggest what could be also put as an option in the fomod installer?

I love this mod really since the start, a lot has improved much more. I hope this ctd problem gets resolved too.



 

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13 hours ago, Mox said:

I've been testing new update 1.4
The thing is when choosing any of the 3 versions of the plugin files the game still ctd at Alternate Start (and without) as soon i hit the name of my character then pOOf!, 3-5 sec after the game closes.
Okay is when i choose "NONE" plugin, the game works fine and any other plugin selected works okay.
I noticed that game requires now "USLEP" ,,can you make a version without it, and also is there any place i could suggest what could be also put as an option in the fomod installer?

I love this mod really since the start, a lot has improved much more. I hope this ctd problem gets resolved too.



 

Dang, I was hoping this update would remove the issue. For the next update ill remove the USLEEP requirement, its really only there because of a few things. Any reason why you don't want it to require USLEEP? I pretty much feel it is a requirement for modding.

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9 hours ago, Jobobby04 said:

Dang, I was hoping this update would remove the issue. For the next update ill remove the USLEEP requirement, its really only there because of a few things. Any reason why you don't want it to require USLEEP? I pretty much feel it is a requirement for modding.

Hey Bobby
For the USLEP no big reason, it was just an custom opinion but if the uslep gives better results let it be then. 

 

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Been holding off adding a comment to wait for someone else to either describe their problems with this mod or tell us why they no longer have any problems. Like MOX said, can't have an active NPC esp during character creation, but after that process is saved can activate the esp of your choice. Managed to complete the Dragonstone quest without a CTD with STEsp active. Couldn't with previous versions. Think the difference is with the clothes meshes, which specific ones I don't know. Tried the quest with previous clothes folder and had CTD.

During installation, it was highly recommended to use the full NPC version. Why?

Not playing Skyrim very much, so have made little progress along the main quest, but have visited the shout monks and cleaned up the barrow without any problems. So far, so good.

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1 hour ago, endline said:

Been holding off adding a comment to wait for someone else to either describe their problems with this mod or tell us why they no longer have any problems. Like MOX said, can't have an active NPC esp during character creation, but after that process is saved can activate the esp of your choice. Managed to complete the Dragonstone quest without a CTD with STEsp active. Couldn't with previous versions. Think the difference is with the clothes meshes, which specific ones I don't know. Tried the quest with previous clothes folder and had CTD.

During installation, it was highly recommended to use the full NPC version. Why?

Not playing Skyrim very much, so have made little progress along the main quest, but have visited the shout monks and cleaned up the barrow without any problems. So far, so good.

There is no big reason that we recommend the full version, its just the one that you should use to get the most out of Sassy Teen Dolls.

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Mod loads fine but the face color doesn't match the body color. Any ideas? I haven't used any other skin textures.

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54 minutes ago, tkh159 said:

Mod loads fine but the face color doesn't match the body color. Any ideas? I haven't used any other skin textures.

Is this on NPCs or the player? NPCs means that either the files are missing or its conflicting with another mod that edits the same characters.

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20 minutes ago, Jobobby04 said:

Is this on NPCs or the player? NPCs means that either the files are missing or its conflicting with another mod that edits the same characters.

It is on the NPC, the players face and body match fine.No other NPC's are affected. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the mod hoping that would fix the texture issue but it did not fix the issue.

What skin texture is being used with this mod? All else fails I can just find a match skin texture for the face if i knew what skin texture is being used ????

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14 minutes ago, tkh159 said:

It is on the NPC, the players face and body match fine.No other NPC's are affected. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the mod hoping that would fix the texture issue but it did not fix the issue.

What skin texture is being used with this mod? All else fails I can just find a match skin texture for the face if i knew what skin texture is being used ????

It's not a skin texture problem, it's a plugin order problem. The issue you are describing is the black face bug, which means conflicts between mods in the file order and the plugin order. Make sure that the plugin that edits that npc is close to the bottom of your load order, and is after any mod that teendolls overwrites. 

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2 minutes ago, Jobobby04 said:

It's not a skin texture problem, it's a plugin order problem. The issue you are describing is the black face bug, which means conflicts between mods in the file order and the plugin order. Make sure that the plugin that edits that npc is close to the bottom of your load order, and is after any mod that teendolls overwrites. 

oh i thought black face bug face just that a black face. I'll look over my mod load order. it certainly does look like I have two different skin textures though??? I'll keep at it!

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3 hours ago, Jobobby04 said:

It's not a skin texture problem, it's a plugin order problem. The issue you are describing is the black face bug, which means conflicts between mods in the file order and the plugin order. Make sure that the plugin that edits that npc is close to the bottom of your load order, and is after any mod that teendolls overwrites. 

OK I remember I gave them a CBBE body, that would explain why the hands,feet and body match but not the head soooo how do I revert it back? unistall didn't work nor overwriting all the files??? 

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1 minute ago, tkh159 said:

OK I remember I gave them a CBBE body, that would explain why the hands,feet and body match but not the head soooo how do I revert it back? unistall didn't work nor overwriting all the files??? 

Im not sure, reinstalling should work. It may be something to do with your mod manager though

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I just cant get this mod to work at all. Even with all of the work arounds mentioned in the comments I get CTD. Unfortunate because it looks amazing and would become a must have mod for my playthroughs. I would almost switch to SE just for this but there are too many limitations at this time. I do hope someone finds the answer and gets this thing fixed. I cant wait to experience it working at 100%.

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3 hours ago, skyrim482 said:

Tried for 5 hours to get this to work.. moved all over load order. Disabled all non ui realted and start mod( live another life ), tried manually installing, installed without clothes, tried without the addons. Crashes every single time ony any  new race start.. is there any fix? Not using lewed version yet but will sign up I could get these mods to work because they look great.

For some reason Skyrim LE does not like our Sassy Teen Dolls plugins, I suggest unchecking the sassy teen doll(full, light, or females only) plugin and starting a new race. And then checking them after you have started somewhere.

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21 minutes ago, skyrim482 said:

ok ill give it a shot, the way the game is reacting to it makes it seem like something in the mod is looking for skyrim sse. Was this mod made backward compatable?

Nope, it was totally ported to LE. This is the whole mod ported to LE, so its not compatible with SE.

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I personally think it has something to do in the ESM, and the ESP is the one triggering it. but i dont know what

 

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    Flower Girls for AE, SE, and VR (Schaken-Mods PATCH/ADD-ON)

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    Be honest.. sex mod done and got your attention 😉 lol So with AE coming with LOTS of updates, Sexlab is struggling to keep up because first SKSE has to update, then PapyrusUtil, then they have to update their own DLL. by then a new update is ready to roll out for Skyrim and the process starts again. Screw all that. So what makes this so different? this REQUIRES nothing, except SKSE (Kinda, works limited without). On that note, it does use PapyrusUtil, but is not required by any m

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    [Schaken-Mods] SkyPeople (DAZ Gen8)

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    This is the Gen8 body, face, mouth, everything from DAZ that i have ported over to Skyrim. This comes with dozens of face texture makeups, eye colors, ect. There is a script that pushes this race into the correct formlists so it will be able to use all the KS hairs and eyes, and all the other mods for Skyrim. I made this over a year ago and am just now posting this as I seen someone made a version that looks almost exactly like mine, as if someone stole it and re-labeled it. To verify, you can l

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