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Sassy Teen Dolls LE 1.5.2

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I know this has to do something with .ESP (the plugin), i tested hours and hours, some of the teen npc's cause this ctd. 


The .ESM file is involved when ESP is ticked, you can try deactivate .esp, start the game, go through the creation process then when you are done with it and made first save, go to your mods again and activate .esp ,BACK TO THE GAME ,go to Riverwood and in the Sleeping giant inn you will notice in two or three entry that fps is getting HUGE, not every time, and npc's there their skin will turn black or purple.

I guess those npc's need to be repositioned over the skyrim world and that some of the npcs 'for the LE version' need a good clean up (get removed).

I showed Shacken the esp's of all version(full,lite and female only) which i modified for my purpose of testing and they worked fine without CTD, but the Riverwood still persist with the problem which is in the .ESM.

So, try methods or untick ESP's. For now.
 

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The club version is same.
I got the files yes I am not sure if i can share them since the Schaken is the boss here and i touched his work and i made this on my purpose to help him one day. But i guarantee that it is working fine with no ctd, except the mentioned Riverwood problem.
I will get in touch with him and ask. So be patient a bit, please. thank you

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1 minute ago, skyrim482 said:

I understand, did not mean to rush anyone. Thank you for sharing and Schaken for permission. I will try and feedback, if i find amything but it could verywell be a step towards a fix for everyone.

thats the plan.

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6 hours ago, skyrim482 said:

I understand, did not mean to rush anyone. Thank you for sharing and Schaken for permission. I will try and feedback, if i find amything but it could verywell be a step towards a fix for everyone.

The feedback is important, I am still trying to figure out how to deal with few problems.

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Everything I've read about porting mods from LE to SSE or vice versa has stated that the port from SSE to LE seldom works well and the best thing to do is build the LE mod from scratch. Seems to me that you have spent enough time on trying to make the port from SSE to LE work that you could have developed this mod just for LE and have solved all the issues users have.

IMO SSE is not as easy to mod especially when physics is used. I have played with both SSE and LE and personally find HDT easier to manipulate; and tweaking textures and meshes in LE is trivial compared to SSE.

I'm not a modder ( my attempts have been dismal failures) and don't claim to understand all the nuances of creating a mod like "Teen Dolls" for Skyrim. I have the greatest respect for you and all the work you have put into your mods. Skyrim LE still has a great following and I think your "Teen Dolls" is the flagship of your mods. Please consider making "Teen Dolls" for LE a priority.

Thanks for "listening".

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3 minutes ago, endline said:

Everything I've read about porting mods from LE to SSE or vice versa has stated that the port from SSE to LE seldom works well and the best thing to do is build the LE mod from scratch. Seems to me that you have spent enough time on trying to make the port from SSE to LE work that you could have developed this mod just for LE and have solv....

LE is actually harder to mod, as so many different things just crash the game, and you cant do nearly the amount of things as far as modding goes. SE is built so much better that its pretty hard to crash the game. 

As far as time goes, Teen Dolls took months to build. We have a full 2 months worth of work in our request pages to catch up to and so far we have over 300 mods we have ported/created/modified on this site alone. Making it from scratch again is off the table. narrowing the issue down like we are right now is by far the best option available right now. At the moment it seems we have come across the issue. LE cant handle the strain that SE can. literally cutting the mod down a ways solves the problem. We will be releasing a beta for the LE of teens really soon and if all goes well, we will give it a full release.

 

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the only issue i have found is the game does not let me load any save with the other teen charater I made before on the unpatched version. So its safe to safe its a new game going foward fix. Thank you, and I hope this helps.

This is strange because i tested that one.It was one of the priorities. if you are using FNIS or any other mod that adds a huge number of animations you should consider to disable them before the test.
Can you provide exact "cannot load save game" reason ,because if its about CTD while loading you could try LOAD GAME CTD FIX or SAFETY LOAD mod.
I doubt that this comes from old< to >new version of teens or maybe I'm mistaken.

 

Skyrim482, what was the last version of STD LE you used before applying the patch to the game?
This one which i worked on is based on 1.4.

 

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Thanks Schaken for responding to my post. Since my LE with over 300 mods (obviously some are merged) is so stable and I only edit some mods with xEdit or convert textures to 2k or replace body meshes, I am totally ignorant of the problems encountered modding SSE or LE. I use Ordenator to modify LE textures and so far nothing even close is available for SSE. I use 2k textures for bodies and most interiors and 1k textures for most exteriors. It seems like mods are now using only 4k textures, which my gear can't handle even playing SSE. As for viewing SSE dds files there are no plugins (when last checked) for i-view, or any other popular viewer. The tools that I have found are not very convenient. For me, it is easier to stick with LE than to try to figure out how to make body physics and Sexlab mods work in SSE.

Thanks to Mox 6, I have been able to start a new game with an active Sassy Teen Dolls esp (Working 181) and travel to a camp in the woods. Hopefully this means that Teen Dolls for LE is finally usable from start to finish.

I did try SSE again last week only to find that my SKSE64 and Racemenu needed to be updated again since I played it last in April of this year, presumably because of some change with Creation Club? I have not been playing Skyrim very much lately, but will try to get SSE working again. Maybe an old dog can learn new tricks and I will grow to love SSE.

 

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15 minutes ago, endline said:

Thanks Schaken for responding to my post. Since my LE with over 300 mods (obviously some are merged) is so stable and I only edit some mods with xEdit or convert textures to 2k or replace body meshes, I am totally ignorant of the problems encountered modding SSE or LE. I use Ordenator to modify LE textures and so far nothing even

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For sure, everyone that has SE knows that LE has some vicious enb settings that can't quite be matched in SE. While SE has a super strong running engine where I can play for literally days without and kind of crash, it also has some serious attention to detail. LE has some STRONG tools for modding, and SE lacks that unless your an experienced modder. LE is far superior when it comes to sexlabs, but that can be pinned to the fact that LL is behind times, as SE can handle scripts much better and the SKSE is also much better since SE is 64 bit. Overall I do think SE is better, but harder for modders. SE is something that with time I have come to love, but LE will always have a spot in my heart. Right now I think the biggest thing is that most of the community is on SE, and therefore, that's where most of the action is.

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Thanks to Mox 6, I have been able to start a new game with an active Sassy Teen Dolls esp (Working 181) and travel to a camp in the woods. Hopefully this means that Teen Dolls for LE is finally usable from start to finish.

Glad to hear that its working to you.

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14 hours ago, Mox said:

Glad to hear that its working to you.

Thank you Mox 6 for all your hard work troubleshooting Teen Dolls for LE. I burst out laughing when I created a character and could continue using Alternate Start and travel to a new location using your Working 181. Good on you!

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The NEW 1.5.2 works like it should, it is finally stable and ready to have fun.
I love the new hi-poly faces , so adorable. Thanks Syer,Schaken and the rest who had their fingers in this. luv ya! you are great guys 🙂

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German version available (update to version 1.5.2)
Deutsche Version verfügbar (Update auf Version 1.5.2)

 

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Hi,

I'm new here and first thing first I'd like to express my appeciation for all the tough work I know is behind all this.

Since I'm building from scratch my new modded Oldrim and I've seen that you have just released a SOS integration patch for the SE version, is there any project to make the same patch for LE? If not, is there any work around?

Thank you

 

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3 hours ago, Rod063 said:

Hi,

I'm new here and first thing first I'd like to express my appeciation for all the tough work I know is behind all this.

Since I'm building from scratch my new modded Oldrim and I've seen that you have just released a SOS integration patch for the SE version, is there any project to make the same patch for LE? If not, is there any work around?

Thank you

 

I thought there was one for LE, ill go ahead and do a quick conversion. Also just so you know, the male teen body was never finished so it looks really bad with their underwear off. That will be fixed in the next update of Teendolls.

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Thank you very much for the quick answer. i'll be waiting

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Thank you very much for the quick answer. i'll be waiting

Its in the club now 👍

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😉 Many Thanks. I'll test it

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I previously posted that this mod would not work for me. I am happy to say that the update works without issue and glad of it. Everything about it is very well done though I am tweaking it to my liking, its a compulsion. I am currently trying to figure out how to move them into the BBLS.

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Is there any way I can have only humanoid teens? Don't want the other non-humanoid races.

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So.....I stopped using this mod like everyone else because it was impossible to start new games without a CTD after "Who are you"

This update got me passed that BUT, now it seems like the older issues came back where the game CTD's when you get near cities and villages where the other Teen NPCs are populated at.  This was the older issue for me and others.  

Anyone else also having this issue since the update?  If so why not make a version without adding the NPC's and just make followers if you want other teens running around?

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So.....I stopped using this mod like everyone else because it was impossible to start new games without a CTD after "Who are you"

This update got me passed that BUT, now it seems like the older issues came back where the game CTD's when you get near cities and villages where the other Teen NPCs are populated at.  This was the older issue for me and others.  

Anyone else also having this issue since the update?  If so why not make a version without adding the NPC's and just make followers if you want other teens running around?

That is possible? Just select none on the second step of the installer and then on the fourth step install some Teen followers.

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This is the second report of ctd near sleeping giants inn and of course the riverwood himself, also there is a strange lag in dawnguard fort, i don't know how to explain, no ctd so far but there was a black skin problem few times when entering the fort ,and a long loading.

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